Alasdair Maclagan, John Milbank and Philip Blond are now operating in a threesome, as in this latest piece on the inequality of virtue. The left, they argue, should embrace
They are after a ‘justifiable inequality’ that seeks ‘to link social and economic prestige with virtue’, for then ‘we can hope for good financial and political leaders possessed of compassion and integrity’.
The problem with these guys is that they think they are offering new, lateral solutions to a perceived crisis (which, I might add, is pretty much restricted to zones on the world like the UK), but they are actually trotting out a tired mish-mash of ideas.
And the definition of virtue – ‘a combination of talent, fitness for a specific social role, and a moral exercise of that role for the benefit of wider society’ – stinks not merely of feudal hierarchies but of Plato and Aristotle. Both of them were archly anti-democratic, hated the rabble doing anything other than picking potatoes or functioning as cannon fodder, and felt in their bones that goodness, virtue, beauty and truth and were seamlessly connected with wealth, status, aristocratic birth – and, of course, the right to rule.
So … be always suspicious of the self-proclaimed virtuous, since they’ll knife you, have their way with your pets and fleece you for what little you own at the least opportunity.
30 January, 2010 at 11:59 am
I love how postmodern radical theologians like those from the Radical Orthodoxy camp see themselves as doing something new when they are recycling garbage, or as I put it in my ever growing lexicon, dramatically re-traditionalizing bad ideas.
I could never go with the Radical Orthodoxy camp, they are actually proud to be Platonists and Augustinians, and to that, I wish them well.
30 January, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Not so much Augustinians, since then they would realise that no-one can lay claim to virtue. Thomists yes.
Fucking brilliant: dramatically re-traditionalising bad ideas.
30 January, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Okay, thanks for the clarification.
And thank you.
30 January, 2010 at 7:54 pm
More like “dramatically re-hashing bad ideas”!
But seriously, Roland, where did your distrust of urban elites come from? Surely you must know that they only have your best interests at heart. Always.
You were born to till the soil on the plantation and they are perfectly happy to allow you access to that kind of simple wholesome life-style. It gives the greatest level of meaning to their deeply complex and culturally rich lives when they can govern and tend you in this way. Surely you wouldn’t deny them their only sure way to happiness. Would you?
What more could you want but to take your place in their world? Remember, happiness awaits you…
30 January, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Essentially, they’re saying the left should look a lot more like the right. It would be nice if we could get past this idea that some people should be dominating over others.
30 January, 2010 at 3:11 pm
In a feel-good, villagey medieval kind-of-way, with the benevolent but largely absent lord of the manor there to make sure virtue is upheld and cowhands spend only Friday evenings with the farm animals.
30 January, 2010 at 2:48 pm
I agree with the first comment on the Guardian site
“I am sorry but this is complete mumbo jumbo”
I’ve not read any of the so-called Red Tory discourse before. I can’t see any trace of even the faintest pink in what I’ve seen so far (and this and the last post set exploring several pieces).
They might want to think of themselves as Red Tories but they are basically Tories at heart and probably have imbibed too much of the Republic (I’ve not read Aristotle so can’t identify what of his serves as a pre-text to this piece). The only way they could claim to be read would be if they put their hands up to be good Leninist ‘democratic centralists’
As I was reading the Guardian piece I was reminded of anarchist discussions and debates about power and authority back in my youth. These discussions distinguished between the authority inherent in skill, expertise, experience etc, e.g. carpenters, doctors, typists, biblical scholars, and authority as in power, control and privilege. Millbank and Blond are deliberately blurring the distinction, perhaps to develop a kind of meritocratic ideology of class privilege and class control
30 January, 2010 at 3:12 pm
More’s on its way, Michael; I have a joint piece lined up on the muddled economics of the RTs and then a ‘Letter to the Pope’ on communism etc.
30 January, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Now let us compare the doctrine of MacLagan et al to the one below:
“In the Fascist conception of history, man is man only by virtue of the spiritual process to which he contributes as a member of the family, the social group, the nation, and in function of history to which all nations bring their contribution. Hence the great value of tradition in records, in language, in customs, in the rules of social life. Outside history man is a nonentity. Fascism is therefore opposed to all individualistic abstractions based on eighteenth century materialism; and it is opposed to all Jacobinistic utopias and innovations…
Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle. Fascism is likewise opposed to trade unionism as a class weapon. But when brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State.” (Benito Mussilini, 1932)
3 February, 2010 at 4:47 pm
OK, Remy – have you got the page ref etc?
3 February, 2010 at 5:03 pm
hehe, all this unhealthy fascination with fascism!
you can get the full text of the “Dottrina” at http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm and the original italian text at http://litgloss.buffalo.edu/mussolini/text.shtml.
it’s nice to have free fascist literature online no?
31 January, 2010 at 12:37 am
Is this being too unkind?
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.
Each little flower that opens,
Each little bird that sings,
He made their glowing colors,
He made their tiny wings.
The rich man in his castle,
The poor man at his gate,
He made them, high or lowly,
And ordered their estate.
3 February, 2010 at 10:00 am
what about the last verse:
The white man at the table
The black man in his cave
difference is order’d
and fixed unto their graves
3 February, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Sums it up rather nicely, I’d say.
31 January, 2010 at 1:58 am
My rule of thumb is that anyone claiming to find a “third way” between the left and the right other than generic liberalism is a fascist.
3 February, 2010 at 4:49 pm
As I have been told, it’s the links back to Chesterton and Belloc that make this a far more ‘interesting’ tradition.
31 January, 2010 at 3:18 am
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3 February, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Remy, thanks for the reference. Looks like RT is reinventing the wheel …